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		<title>By: Mike Riccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Riccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the politicians/government was not owned by the oil companies and their huge political contributions (payoffs) then we would have discovered (and used) alternative energy sources many many years ago. Politicions (the President, Congress and the Senate) are paid NOT to work on these things. This is not just some sort of &quot;conspiracy theory&quot;, it is just plain fact. On top of that, our Local, State, and Federal goverments are &quot;partners&quot; with the oil companies because they make a percentage (taxes) so why should they do anything to help lower the price of gas at the pumps (with or without additives).
They could manufacture cars that could run on solar power in states (like here in Florida) that have a high percentage of sunny days. Also the solar cells store power so they could even be used on cloudy or rainy days. This would even help. There are also lots of other ways to reduce oil consumption but the government does NOT want that. That is the problem. Our government is our biggest enemy along with the oil companies in this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the politicians/government was not owned by the oil companies and their huge political contributions (payoffs) then we would have discovered (and used) alternative energy sources many many years ago. Politicions (the President, Congress and the Senate) are paid NOT to work on these things. This is not just some sort of &#8220;conspiracy theory&#8221;, it is just plain fact. On top of that, our Local, State, and Federal goverments are &#8220;partners&#8221; with the oil companies because they make a percentage (taxes) so why should they do anything to help lower the price of gas at the pumps (with or without additives).<br />
They could manufacture cars that could run on solar power in states (like here in Florida) that have a high percentage of sunny days. Also the solar cells store power so they could even be used on cloudy or rainy days. This would even help. There are also lots of other ways to reduce oil consumption but the government does NOT want that. That is the problem. Our government is our biggest enemy along with the oil companies in this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Is it a Food Issue, or a Population Issue.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is it a Food Issue, or a Population Issue.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his Success Principles series, Chris Cree at SuccessCREEations recently talked about Uintended Consequences. It interesting, well written, and makes the important point that we tend to be short sighted in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his Success Principles series, Chris Cree at SuccessCREEations recently talked about Uintended Consequences. It interesting, well written, and makes the important point that we tend to be short sighted in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that doesn&#039;t even get into the 8 or 9 gallons of water it takes to make each gallon of ethanol. But at least that problem doesn&#039;t seem to have any short term negative affects out side the US so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that doesn&#8217;t even get into the 8 or 9 gallons of water it takes to make each gallon of ethanol. But at least that problem doesn&#8217;t seem to have any short term negative affects out side the US so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cockrum</title>
		<link>http://successcreeations.com/225/success-principle-15-unintended-consequences/#comment-19951</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related to what you&#039;re saying - there&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=3050&quot;&gt;article in April&#039;s Chesapeake Bay Journal&lt;/a&gt; that talks about this issue. It seems the amount of corn it takes to fill a 25 gallon tank can feed 1 person for a year. In the meantime, while corn production is supposed to increase by 16%, corn exports are supposed to decrease by 14%, and, as you&#039;ve shown, the price will be higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; there&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=3050">article in April&#8217;s Chesapeake Bay Journal</a> that talks about this issue. It seems the amount of corn it takes to fill a 25 gallon tank can feed 1 person for a year. In the meantime, while corn production is supposed to increase by 16%, corn exports are supposed to decrease by 14%, and, as you&#8217;ve shown, the price will be higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://successcreeations.com/225/success-principle-15-unintended-consequences/#comment-19942</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; you&#039;re not heartless, Rick. Sometimes the implications of what we think may seem that way from another perspective.

Here are some implications of the stats you mention. Because so much corn is used indirectly in other segments of our food supply the costs of those food sources is going up too.

Also we feed many millions of the world&#039;s people with that 20%. And that&#039;s the 20% that is being hardest hit by the  huge upswing in ethanol demand. As a wealthier nation, we can afford to pay more for our corn than the underdeveloped countries who have historically relied on our exports. 

Therefore our corn exports are falling off dramatically, hence the increase in world hunger that we&#039;re facing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>know</i> you&#8217;re not heartless, Rick. Sometimes the implications of what we think may seem that way from another perspective.</p>
<p>Here are some implications of the stats you mention. Because so much corn is used indirectly in other segments of our food supply the costs of those food sources is going up too.</p>
<p>Also we feed many millions of the world&#8217;s people with that 20%. And that&#8217;s the 20% that is being hardest hit by the  huge upswing in ethanol demand. As a wealthier nation, we can afford to pay more for our corn than the underdeveloped countries who have historically relied on our exports. </p>
<p>Therefore our corn exports are falling off dramatically, hence the increase in world hunger that we&#8217;re facing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cockrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand your point that making fuel from corn will drive up grain prices and make it harder for poor people to afford.

I didn&#039;t mean to seem heartless, Chris. Most corn isn&#039;t used for direct food for human consumption. Look &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nebraskacorn.org/usesofcorn/index.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;  and you&#039;ll see that over half of the US corn crop is used for animal feed. Less than 2% is used directly for food, and less than 9% in human food products. Less than 20% is exported. In talking about dietary changes, I think more about Americans than most other populations. I eat meat. I have no desire to cut out meat completely. But decreasing it&#039;s usage would free up a lot of grain for human consumption.

I had better be quiet. The next thing you know I&#039;ll be starting a political blog again, then I&#039;ll get high blood pressue, then I&#039;ll have to start on medication for that, then I&#039;ll be raising the cost of health care even higher than I have already raised it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand your point that making fuel from corn will drive up grain prices and make it harder for poor people to afford.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to seem heartless, Chris. Most corn isn&#8217;t used for direct food for human consumption. Look <a href="http://www.nebraskacorn.org/usesofcorn/index.htm">here</a>  and you&#8217;ll see that over half of the US corn crop is used for animal feed. Less than 2% is used directly for food, and less than 9% in human food products. Less than 20% is exported. In talking about dietary changes, I think more about Americans than most other populations. I eat meat. I have no desire to cut out meat completely. But decreasing it&#8217;s usage would free up a lot of grain for human consumption.</p>
<p>I had better be quiet. The next thing you know I&#8217;ll be starting a political blog again, then I&#8217;ll get high blood pressue, then I&#8217;ll have to start on medication for that, then I&#8217;ll be raising the cost of health care even higher than I have already raised it. <img src='http://successcreeations.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://successcreeations.com/225/success-principle-15-unintended-consequences/#comment-19924</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Rick. I especially like the idea of turning algae into fuel.

But to say that we aren&#039;t contributing the cause of world hunger by burning a primary staple food source simply because &quot;they could eat something else&quot; is a bit like having no sympathy for people in a drought caused famine, &quot;well they could move somewhere else.&quot; It seems a little heartless on the face of it.

I agree that people around the world can change their diets. However finding suitable, similar cost food sources takes time. 

Keep in mind that every time food gets more expensive in the world, it gets just that much further out of reach for some parts of the world&#039;s population. That&#039;s something the bureaucrats here seem to have overlooked. Go figure.

I don&#039;t know whether it&#039;s productive or not to point out the correlation. It sure is uncomfortable.

But hey, we can just keep trucking along and pretend it&#039;s not our fault. &lt;i&gt;&quot;Let them eat cake.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Rick. I especially like the idea of turning algae into fuel.</p>
<p>But to say that we aren&#8217;t contributing the cause of world hunger by burning a primary staple food source simply because &#8220;they could eat something else&#8221; is a bit like having no sympathy for people in a drought caused famine, &#8220;well they could move somewhere else.&#8221; It seems a little heartless on the face of it.</p>
<p>I agree that people around the world can change their diets. However finding suitable, similar cost food sources takes time. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that every time food gets more expensive in the world, it gets just that much further out of reach for some parts of the world&#8217;s population. That&#8217;s something the bureaucrats here seem to have overlooked. Go figure.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s productive or not to point out the correlation. It sure is uncomfortable.</p>
<p>But hey, we can just keep trucking along and pretend it&#8217;s not our fault. <i>&#8220;Let them eat cake.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cockrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on about the need for us to try to see the long term consequences of our actions and decisions. If we looked past tomorrow when taking action, we wouldn&#039;t be in the situation we are in now. And I&#039;m also in complete agreement with corn not being the best feedstock for ethanol. One of the easiest, yes. Best, no. 

Even with the consequences, I would rather see a turn away from capital energy sources such as oil to income energy sources such as corn and other vegetation - including algae, which has been sadly neglected, and in the long run I think would be much more productive.

Blaming the use of corn for energy for world starvation is a bit much, though. While corn products can be found in almost all the food we eat, much of it is in the form of corn syrup for sugar and corn oil. Both of these can be replaced by other sources. Much of the rest of the corn we grow is used for animal feed. Many more people can be supported on a vegetarian diet than on a meat-centered diet. 

I don&#039;t feel bad for China. China has farmed the same land for 4000 years, but has managed to destroy a quarter of its farmland since the Maoists took over.

Long term, I just don&#039;t see it being productive to blame the US for world hunger, any more than it is productive to blame the US for global warming or the unstable world situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on about the need for us to try to see the long term consequences of our actions and decisions. If we looked past tomorrow when taking action, we wouldn&#8217;t be in the situation we are in now. And I&#8217;m also in complete agreement with corn not being the best feedstock for ethanol. One of the easiest, yes. Best, no. </p>
<p>Even with the consequences, I would rather see a turn away from capital energy sources such as oil to income energy sources such as corn and other vegetation &#8211; including algae, which has been sadly neglected, and in the long run I think would be much more productive.</p>
<p>Blaming the use of corn for energy for world starvation is a bit much, though. While corn products can be found in almost all the food we eat, much of it is in the form of corn syrup for sugar and corn oil. Both of these can be replaced by other sources. Much of the rest of the corn we grow is used for animal feed. Many more people can be supported on a vegetarian diet than on a meat-centered diet. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel bad for China. China has farmed the same land for 4000 years, but has managed to destroy a quarter of its farmland since the Maoists took over.</p>
<p>Long term, I just don&#8217;t see it being productive to blame the US for world hunger, any more than it is productive to blame the US for global warming or the unstable world situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;ll potentially starve millions for a few thousand more votes? In a primary?

I&#039;m a little on the cynical side but that&#039;s too much for me to swallow. I would hope it is more of a lack of understanding of the world corn market.

Ignorant sounds so much better to me than evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they&#8217;ll potentially starve millions for a few thousand more votes? In a primary?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little on the cynical side but that&#8217;s too much for me to swallow. I would hope it is more of a lack of understanding of the world corn market.</p>
<p>Ignorant sounds so much better to me than evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

My daughters probably have never smelled unadditived gas, but you remember it.  And you probably remember when they first started mix-ins and thinking &quot;that just don&#039;t smell right!&quot;  And your gut reaction was spot on.

Anyway, I think the price is lower in Iowa because, given a choice, people go with their gut (and nose).

I don&#039;t think you have to go any farther in analyzing why people aren&#039;t buying into it.  Yet there may also be an subconscious questioning of &quot;there are hungry people all over the world; is the right answer to our energy problems performing unnatural acts to our food supply?&quot;

If we&#039;re going to throw money at the problem, spend it to tap the biomass in our landfills and end tariffs on Brazilian sugar (which is a cheaper source of ethanol).  Wait.  What&#039;s that you say, Senator?  We can&#039;t do that because it won&#039;t get you votes in the Iowa primary?  Oh, right.  Maybe THAT&#039;S why people aren&#039;t jumping on the bandwagon.  The whole idea fails the sniff test on multiple levels! ;-)

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>My daughters probably have never smelled unadditived gas, but you remember it.  And you probably remember when they first started mix-ins and thinking &#8220;that just don&#8217;t smell right!&#8221;  And your gut reaction was spot on.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think the price is lower in Iowa because, given a choice, people go with their gut (and nose).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to go any farther in analyzing why people aren&#8217;t buying into it.  Yet there may also be an subconscious questioning of &#8220;there are hungry people all over the world; is the right answer to our energy problems performing unnatural acts to our food supply?&#8221;</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to throw money at the problem, spend it to tap the biomass in our landfills and end tariffs on Brazilian sugar (which is a cheaper source of ethanol).  Wait.  What&#8217;s that you say, Senator?  We can&#8217;t do that because it won&#8217;t get you votes in the Iowa primary?  Oh, right.  Maybe THAT&#8217;S why people aren&#8217;t jumping on the bandwagon.  The whole idea fails the sniff test on multiple levels! <img src='http://successcreeations.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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